Molad Times

What is the lunar sabbath? I know the new moon was always celebrated since olden times, but was it also a sabbath? Reply

In Judaism the Sabbath was never lunar. In Babylonia the word Shappatu could refer to the time of the full moon. Reply

This year is a "defective" leap year meaning that the year has 383 days . Both Marcheshvan and Kislev had only 29 days so The month of Shevat began earlier before the molad. The molad has no effect on what day the month starts. The only molad that affect the start of a month is the molad of Tishrei. And all the other months just follow according to the number of days 29 or 30 ( except Marcheshvan and Kislev which are flexible.) Reply

How does Cheshvan And kislev Work? Reply

Yes, and specifically, the reason why we add or subtract a day from Cheshvan/Kislev is to adjust the day of Rosh Hashana so that it won't fall on Sun, Wed, or Fri (lo ADU Rosh). For example, last Rosh Hashana fell on Shabbos, and this year had to be a leap year (according to the 19-year cycle, not because of molad), which is normally 384 days. But that would make next Rosh Hashana on Friday which is not allowed. So the options are to either add a day to make next RH on Shabbos or subtract a day to make RH on Thur (which is what we have this year). The choice between the 2 options actually does depend on the molad time. Once that is determined, the rest of the year is fixed accordingly. Reply

A regular year has 3,4 or 5 days later in the week between this Rosh HaShana and next years Rosh HaShana. A leap year has 5,6, or 7 days..( This year-a leap year- RH was Shabbat and next year is Thursday) So next year is 5 days later. That means the year is "defective" and both Cheshvan and Kislev get 29 days.. If the year was full( 7 days later in the week) then both Cheshvan and Kislev would get 30 days. Or if would be 6 days difference, the Cheshvan gets 29 and Kislev 30 Reply

Aren't there also Instances where Cheshvan had 30 days and Kislev had 29?
What's that about?
PS thank you all for your help!. Reply

No, that never happens. When these 2 months have 29 and 30 days, it is always cheshvon that has 29 and Kisleiv that has 30. This year is then kesidrah, meaning that all the months alternate in order 30, 29, 30, 29, 30, 29.... Reply

Except for Cheshvan and Kislev Which both have 29 days this year right? Reply

"If we were still relying on the actual observation of the moon to establish the start of a new month."

Why not just do what Hashem has commanded and observe the moon? Why make His command of no effect? How many still keep the commanded New Moon moedim days like Hashem commanded? Reply

RH is postponed to the next available day so if the molad is Thursday after 12 noon it is postponed but it cant be on Friday (or Sunday or Wednesday) so it is postponed to Saturday. As far as the number of days in the year it can be 353, 354 or 355 ( or in a leap year 383,384 or 385) Reply

Saturday night at 11:56pm (almost midnight and well after sunset) is already what we would call Sunday. Reply

The molad of Shevat has no effect on the start of the month. Only the molad of Tishrei can affect the start of the year. Also , this is a 355 day year so every Rosh chodesh after kislev is pushed later by a day. Reply

Saturday , October 14, 2023 at 6pm and 595 chalakim (parts). ( Theoretically Israel time.) I would be curious why this information is of interest as it has no effect on the calendar. The only molad which affects the calendar is the molad of Tishrei. Reply

It was right below the article Reply

To be exact, it is Jerusalem solar time, which is 35 minutes later than Jerusalem civil time. So the molad of 6:33 pm is solar time, which is 7:08 pm on the clocks. Reply

In order to calculate when to say kiddush halebana which is still reliant on the mold not rosh chodesh Reply

You speak Yiddish? that is so cool!
I'm still learning Hebrew and I do not know when I will finish. Reply

There is a trick you can use to know which Rosh Chodesh is 1 or 2 days.

The rule is that Rosh Chodesh will always be the next day in the week than the previous Rosh Chodesh.So one month will be, let's say, Sunday Monday. The next month will be Tuesday.

So, if you look at a particular month, and you see Rosh Chodesh is on a Sunday, and the next month is on Tuesday, that means the first month was a 2-day Rosh Chodesh. Otherwise, the next month's Rosh Chodesh would have to be on a Monday. Reply

tishrei, shevat, nisan, sivan, av and first adar all 30 days . cheshvan, kislev varies 29 or 30 depending on the length of the year. all the rest 29. The rule is that if the previous month has 30 days the next month has 2 days rosh chodesh, if 29 , the the next month has one day rosh chodesh.. Reply

This is more because of lack of being israel than the lack of knowing the time Reply

There are two days Rosh Chodesh in Israel Reply

She was referring to 2 days of Yom Tov Reply

Their chart does say June 10 Reply

There's 18 chalakim in a minute, so after 17 comes 0, and one more minute is added to the minutes.

It's similar to our clocks. Our clocks have 60 seconds in a minute but the clock will never say "60". 59 is the last displayed second, and after that it goes to "0", and another minute gets added to the minutes.

There's an interesting way to notice how the chalakim add up to a minute. Before October 17, 2020, all the minutes are even (since an even number of minutes (44) are being added each month to an even number) but starting from October 17th, all the minutes are odd. That's because the chalakim added up to 18 and equaled a whole minute, so that offsets all the even numbers into odd numbers. And now every month an even number of minutes (44) are added to the odd numbers, so they stay odd. Do you know what I mean? Reply

A chelek is 3 and one third seconds so there are 18 chalakim in a minute. It increases in the chelek column by one chelek every month. Every 18 months it comes to an even minute, no chalakim Reply

There is something huge about this but I can't quite figure it out yet. I wonder how many Molad minutes all these Chalakim's add up to and did it start when Israel bannered the Star Of David (26) 70ish years ago? October 17th is a special date for my family and I am just trying to put all the Holy pieces to the Spiritual puzzle together. Thank you! Reply

The first chalakim count started on 31/12/1899 that is the date Psalms 1 starts. Psalms 48 was year 1948, Psalms 108 was year 2008, Psalms 120 is year 5780 or 2020, and so forth.... Reply

I just looked up where you're from and strangely enough the city you live in looks like the mouth of His face(Settlements of Judea as facial features, the head being outlined by the landmark boundary lines of the Westbank) That face, looking aerial view on a map, seems like it is set against itself toward the land of Israel , the Holy Royal Kingdom of Hashem. Reply

Oh wait counting the first chelek at the start of this chart will get you to 14 when the even time passes over to odd times adding 44 mintues to each chalakim. That day is October 17th 2020! Reply